Well ok so the very end of Oct is very close in time being 3 weeks from the last 9 month cycle turn period Feb 23rd I would guess. So the question would be is this a cycle turn period. And would we assume that only the direction going into that time period would suggest a reverse in that direction then? Or does your work suggest a high or low from this early time period? And is there anything that would suggest the magnitude of that change in trend in late Oct.? (major or minor) This is the type of thing one needs to have an idea of to deal with the price action going into that time period if possible. At least then one can plan a strategy. Any clarification of these basic questions would be helpful to the traders following this thread. I can save and post the charts with any dates and comments anytime.